The “rape racks” posts have already been written by at least 3 prominent dog bloggers that I can think of off the top of my head, and surely many more. Baer hearing testing DOES lead to acurate statistics as well as providing breeders with information on each and every litter so they can make wiser choices in the future to consistanly work on improving the breed. “The Study of Instinct.” Oxford University Press, New York (reprinted 1961). a philosophical and theoretical framework of a scientific school or discipline within which theories, laws, and generalizations and the experiments performed in support of them are formulated; broadly : a philosophical or theoretical framework of any kind. ANY breed can show the traits the Dals do and while I think this whole article is unfair, I know the guy who wrote it won’t listen. The coloring is a poison and it has an effect that clearly interrupts an over-rides all the many other elements and genes that influence behavior. Dave recently posted..From Which He Flushed. I don’t say otherwise. A near exhaustive pedigree back to the founders save a few dead ends caused by registries going under and no living people who have papers that I’ve been able to find. None of the things you listed as accomplishments qualifies you in any way to make statements regarding genetics nor do they give you any special knowledge regarding Dalmatians – or Border Collies for that matter. What do you expect? I respect your opinion, but yea, my opinion is also based on fact, which leads me to surmise one of us might be wrong in some instances. 8, 2517-2529. So no, EVERY human is not “affected with this gene.” It is only Dalmatians that are universally predisposed by their genetics due to lack of any other allele present at SLC2A9. http://www.embracepetinsurance.com/dog-breeds/dalmatian. Have you never seen a Fireman’s Parade? When you have aggressive tendencies in larger dogs like mastiffs it becomes life threatening. Actually I didn’t cite the folk belief, Grandin did, and I included it because it finished off the thoughts she had written about prior to it. Proc. The first issue to clarify when looking for a pup is character and you expect proof of this when you visit. But to blatantly trash a breed you don’t even know is ridiculous. It seems that people breed for type more than temperament, or health. “Scott & Carol Facey’s little corner of the world. What you say about deafness is true (though the percentage is closer to 25% and that includes dogs that are both unilaterally and bilaterally deaf). We know that Americans are less tolerant of patches than Europeans do. Nor can you just breed away from it. Biol. If you did, you wouldn’t breed or own extreme piebald dogs like the Dalmatian. They could be fearful. I have found many people today know nothing about Lassie. Examples: Low x Low bred to a normal High x High Dalmatian will produce 100% Low x High progeny. “And NO, every human is not EQUALLY likely to get lung cancer. This isn’t like some breeds that have a high concentration for a shitty gene. They do not have a white coat base color they are either black or liver. I won’t argue with you further as I would just be repeating what others have said, but I just wanted to ask you a simple question. Maybe they did not have the technology to document the health issues when these standards were originally written for our pure breeds. The reputation of the Dalmatian in the US is not always great but in Europe they are well known for their suitability as family pets particularly when children are present in the household. Nor in the 35 minutes it took you to read the whole 1 page of this blog you looked at did you bother to click on any other of many many posts which deal with health, genetics, and problems with all sorts of breeds, ESPECIALLY Border Collies. But yes quite a few small dogs are ankle biters. There is no aggression being portrayed, yet I’m sure an uninformed individual can mistake this submission for aggression. Dec 25, 2015 - This Pin was discovered by lolo. The white areas of skin and hair are albino and the dark areas are pigmented. Can you blame her? Decrease the chance of deadly urates stones by HUNDREDS of times by allowing .01% foreign blood into a breed that has no other purpose save being a pet. I grew up in a family that showed both Great Danes and Briards at separate times. Poor breeding causes poor results, it causes health issue for the mother and the litter and it does effect them mentally and behaviorally. Does that mean all white dogs should be labelled as a train wreck? Why pick one breed and try and make it look far worse than it is? WHAT A COP OUT. I adore my spotted clowns and, if I must support their bodies as they hit 13, 14, and higher because their nerves have greater problems than other breeds (and I’m not convinced they are any different in this area from non-piebalds), then I will support my dogs. Grandin doesn’t know how to read? I’ll bet you could even bang a pot while standing behind a pup. Wilson Bull. The blank state theory is bullcrap. The third time, its boring, ‘Go get your own stick, you threw it away’. There is a lot of that going on in the world today. I don’t believe it’s ethical to breed the Dalmatian coat color pattern, so that implicates the entire breed and every breeder. They supply a table of the list of dogs that have been tested and the number tested. B., (1930). LOL Chris technical or biological Terriorman agrees 51 percent. 0 Votes. And this is easy to say because we know the excess white causes deafness and all Dalmatians are bred with this color. We don’t need negative people like you in the Dal world. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Because of the many problems associated with bilaterally deaf dogs and the surplus of available puppies, the Dalmatian Club of America has an official position calling for the euthanasia of deaf puppies, with the emphasis on breeders rather than new owners. Stating that you cannot fault back yard breeders is a completely false statement. ), pp. Fox, M. W, ed. Dalmatians have health issues that can be a concern, especially if you aren’t cautious about whom you buy from. Otherwise the general public think show-fanciers are only trying to hide something. By MIREYA NAVARRO Dehghan A et al. I’m afraid the Doberman Pinscher Club of America does not agree with you regarding squinting not being a reason to breed albino dobes. I think you’re making it up that they’re a breeder of merit. Often the true answer can’t ever be found by oneself because a key piece of knowledge remains hidden. You write: “Sorry, but in a very real sense all of your dogs go back to just one dog, and that the breed is defined around such a singular gene it is going to suffer because of that. To put him to sleep would be just as terrible as putting any of my other dogs to sleep. All Rights Reserved. (Published in 1901 by Macmillan, London.). For those who do not want to go through the hassle of going through the SKK’s database, I took the liberty of producing downloadable PDFs and putting them on my website. You will know the difference if the dog means it. What a charming personality you have. My using google is not to prove that Dalmatians DO have bad temperaments, it’s to prove that most people believe they do and are searching for that. … I never heard of WORKING dals. It is not because these dogs aren’t selectively bred or sufficiently pedigreed (known ancestry. You made the entirely uninformed comment that I’m not writing about Border Collies or other breeds enough. In any case, folk beliefs, anecdata, and hearsay—which are the quality of evidence he’s citing in that post—are not enough to base a claim like “white dogs are unstable” on. Just in case you’re trying to make them look aggressive for you charming article. Since you like numbers and statistics so much: Passing rate of ATTS temperament test: You know what you have behind your dogs for as many generation as you can. Hyperuricemia is a disease. I have a Coton de Tulear (she is all white except for champaign colouring on her ears) and her skin is very pink. First of all, it’s time for people who claim they love their breeds to open their eyes. J. Neurosci. Be sure to reinforce your rules every time in the same way or else your dog will get confused. Cattle temperaments in extensive herds in northern Queensland. Reward potty with treats . BTW, dobermans as a rule are inbred. (and it’s not me -haha) Please also note how I can voice opinion without being nasty, I in no way want to attack you personally, I just wanted to join the discussion. Fujita, 0., Annen, Y., and Kitaoka, A. Well that’s a defeatist attitude! FACT: White coloring is correlated and causal to deafness in dogs. 85, 56-59. LMFAO, they’re EGYPTIAN DOGS!! All purebreeds can suffer issues, are you saying border collies have no problems at all?? Asymmetries in neural control of vocalization in the canary In “Lateralization of the Nervous System” (S. Harnard, ed.). Why not just do some more crosses? Dev. Second: the extreme white spotting gene and albinism are two different things: albinism, afaik, does NOT cause deafness. Dalmatians are HARDLY the first, only, or most regular subject of my discussion of the topic. They became more Social Clubs in my opinion, and viewpoint.. That is because there is no such thing in the Dalmatian lines. 89,989-998. The misbehavior of organisms. I’ve also met half a dozen American Pit Bulls that were easily 90% white with a few little black spots who had wonderful personalities. I think a Jack Russel Terrier (also an extreme piebald dog) that weighted 40 pounds would be the worst possible dog for anyone. I have met a couple Dallies with mental problems and I can see why people come to dislike the breed. Dalmatians are extreme piebald dogs with a modified tick pattern that we recognize as spots. Read it! Encouraging good behavior also means correcting them as needed. I’d love to bring in a sight hound to counter balance the boxy heavy structure that BCs are tending to and of course for the big benefit, the excellent hips! He is arrogant and unwilling to even look at different stats. I couldn’t agree more with your article. If I go to an unbiased source, eg., the Finnish KC’s database, and look at cause of death statistics, I find that the border collie is far from problem free, either. It is very exhausting to keep them busy. By DCA and AKC rules there needed to be a clear 2/3 majority to allow the dogs in but both looked the other way because they didn’t want the publicity. Fentress,J. You are a catty and biased Dalmatian breeder apologist and you rely on shitty tactics like bashing Border Collies on a post that has nothing to do with Border Collies. To even hint that they are mentally and physically a “train wreck” is ludicrous. Matheson, B. K., Branch, B.J., and Taylor, A. N. (1971). Vet. All Dal’s need an incredible amount of excercise. Last week we shared a Dalmatian pupp's training video, it generated nearly 12,000 views. It’s disgusting. This is the only effect that matters. Every breed has problems but what exactly are breeders doing?? First it’s 30% are deaf… then it’s 45%. Well, I’m not sure why the German system is being talked about since I don’t think they are a significant producer of Dalmatians nor do I think they export their supposedly improved dogs much, but you can correct me if I’m wrong. … And I will not hold my breath that Dalmatian breeders will EVER consider giving up the spots. Genetic factors that play a role in lung cancer include both unknown and known factors such as the SNPs we describe here. The facts are, the Dalmatian has been studied more than any other breed, thus their rates of deafness are probably far more accurate than other breeds. they are dwarfs (did this post), brachycephalic (did this post), and unsound in structure. They are the best possible dog for anyone who wants a tough watchdog that will keep varmint out of an open barn. Are we seeing and reading internet TROLLING? Now he’s up to 2.5 miles of walks a day and hes only 5 months. It’s not a smile, it’s a fear grin, and it’s a dangerous and disgusting form of anthropomorphism that so many Dalmatian owners are so want to recharacterize this sign of anxiety as something cute! 67, 3266-3276. Maybe you were never exposed to Fireman, and now woman who do volunteer work at fires with their Dals. The only thing that was recorded was the LUA or HUA status of each dog produced. Sluyter, F., Bult, A., Lynch, C. B., VanOortmerssen, G. A., and Kookhaus,J. Hehehehe, is this really a hard concept? It still isn’t life threatening or bad in my opinion, reduction in pigmentation is part of evolution and even domestication, piebaldism does not exist in the wild but it does in domestic animals, it even popped up in the russian fur fox farm experiment and foxes with blue eyes also appeared, what do you think this means? You’re welcome to go read up on it yourself. I remember even in the early 80’s there were a fairly decent number around of the Gelderlander that weren’t F1 crosses but today its like finding dry land in the Netherlands, almost none existent and far worse for the Groninger. If LUA advocates are smart they will propose working with UKC and restart their outcross program. Very interesting – do you by any chance know if it is also possible to access the individual-level data for the MH-test, not just the breed averages? Mar 29, 2018 - This Pin was discovered by Meredith Claborn. The welfare of albino rats in a laboratory probably has not been compromised because they are still able to eat, drink, and mate without difficulty However, further abnormalities of the visual system may cause functional problems. She knew that she would be breeding for blindness. Why must someone else do all the work for you? It explains why we see all this complexity with the MHC. First, high uric acid is NOT limited to Dalmatians, Humans, and Apes. The issue specifically was albinism when it came to the doberman. Hall, C. S. (1938). Association of anxiety-related traits with a polymorphism in the serotonin transporter gene-regulatory region. I responded to an insult with a question. That making them urinate stones is not a fair situation to maintain breed purity. As far as your plans of bringing in different breeds to better your breed-they won’t be border collies then will they. The evolution of intelligence and its organs. My daughter rescued one, so I do have first hand experience with one. Think that maybe dals still have the instincts to be natural SAR dogs? Calling me a “committed liar” is slander, so please don’t do that. Do they all have the same Piebald, Ticking, and Flecking genes? I advise you not to talk badly about animals that many people own and keep as dear friends, you should be ashamed of yourself picking on a poor breed to just make money to satisfy yourself. If you see the need to evaluate all 500 for your breed it might be time to change? You see the Kennel Club of United Kingdom introducing extensive reforms. Nor have you established that you’re even getting anything in this wager. You can say it all you want, but that just makes you a committed liar. Obviously not something synonymous with that particular breed but with moronic owners like this I’ll jump to my own inbred conclusions! The gun is still loaded and the only way to win is to either NOT PLAY or unload the gun. Christopher, You are taking this way to far. That’s an enormously high number considering how rare dog bites are in comparison to the number of dogs living with humans. And why is your measure of success the 100% removal of the HUA gene ASAP? Louisiana State University The current LUA’s are coming on stronger and stronger by the year so no matter how many people are still out there believing that the pointer can spoil the Dalmatians hips (ah well, some do not learn) they will make their way. They form slightly more than the Yorkshire terrier. The Collies i’ve met have not been. Why are you invoking Border Collies? I have always felt that dogs operate on the “What’s in it for me?” principle. Eysenck, ed. 57, 618. Their working dogs even,so can’t blame dog shows on them. No dog is a nanny. 8, 507-525. But you’re here arguing with me reading what I have to say. Denial is not just a river in Egypt. In all my years around horses, I’ve never seen a horse with 3 + white legs not have some white on their face (and usually more than horses without white on legs) and vice versa, never seen a horse with a lot of white on their face not have at least some white legs, often more in comparison. … How hard could it be to train a Dalmatian ? It may not be the individual dog itself but the concept of Dalmatians that is morally repugnant to him. There’s a lot of blame to go around concerning why Dalmatians are a train wreck of a breed and the favorite targets of such scorn are Disney and Backyard Breeders. You are right that it is not the same gene that causes HUA in Dalmatians and Humans but none the less Humans are 100% genetically predisposed to HUA. I honestly don’t know anymore. And I’ll repeat: careful breeding could lower the incidences of deaf puppies in Dalmatians. How many dogs have you been around in general? (1) No one has SOLVED the HUA problem in Dalmatians. 50, 1491-1511. We were very fortunate that this happened in the late 80’s early 90’s and people don’t react the way they do today. Funny, for all your supposed experience you comment anonymously and can’t find fault with anything I’ve written. You’ve made some interesting comments. calm? Urinary tract problems are not caused by over-breeding, popularity swings, or backyard breeders. The fact remains that your breed is still not tested at ALL and I do not want to know how many unilateral hearing once are among breeding schemes so please do what every RESPONSIBLE breeder does and concentrate on leading with a great example, show everybody how much better you can do and mentor as many young and upcoming breeders that you can get hold off rather than ripping a breed apart that you know very little about. Whether the riskier version of SNP rs8034191 affects the risk for developing lung cancer directly or by causing people to smoke more cigarettes is unclear. Problem was the well behaved collies were well behaved because they were blind. His anti-Dalmatian rants aren’t backed up with facts. Hrm. etc. See Answer. So yes, I am aware of the possibilities of health defects and behavioral issues. He avoided that question. Growing up even those who worked in the firehouses. Wow, I must be really, really lucky. Sci. Why don’t YOU spend a few minutes reading the HUNDREDS of posts on this blog before you make an uninformed assessment of what I write about. Ships from: Becky's Books 2009: Sold by: Becky's Books 2009: Details. Dobzhansky, T. (1970). “Trait Value”] is weighted value of all the traits. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Is a 12 week old Dalmatian puppy too young to train? Nerve sheath biopsy may also be helpful. She loves her family so much and she loves meeting new people and puppies. I assure you this is not some of the fractured fairy tales in my opinion +++++++. Is it possible that the smiling and non-smiling in Dals is not linked to anything bad? Neurobiol. I NEVER said every single Dalmatian is deaf. Which, in my opinion, is just as crazy as he is. -are they a figment of my imagination? This behavior was often observed in monkeys and apes in the context of demonstrating to predators they were harmless and meant no threat. No chance of lying? Assessment of individual differences in behavioral reactions of heifers exposed to various fear-eliciting situations. Zool. If the “witch” or “curse” is what we know to really be an “inherited genetic disease” , then I am all for not breeding more of it. I do know that I love the breed. When I was bitten (badly) there was no warning, no provocation whatsoever. A critical review of the empirical evidence. Walk your dog, train your dog, socialize your dog, consistently, from puppyhood. Backcrossing to one or the other parent breeds for three generations will produce progeny that is 93.75% ‘pure.’, A mutt or mongrel is simply a dog of mixed ancestry. There could be no more HUA puppies born ever.”. 16, 681-684. . Not for new owners: In fact, they are not advisable for new dog owners as they need a higher level of training. Children can surprise a deaf dog. Agric. I’ve written over a dozen posts on pigment related disorders in Collies, Great Danes, Australian Shepherds, Shelties, etc., where pronounced temperament issues are clearly associated with too little pigment. (19l8). Strain suggests that patches improve deafness rates. Wood-Gush, D. G. M., and Vestergaard, K. (1991). They are born pink and hairless and like the Dals the spots come in later. International Behavioural Sciences Service, Consultants Bureau, New York. A good writer should always be able to take constructive criticism and listen to other points of views, which I actually see little of this here. And it kind of completes the line of rhyme. [Domestication and its sequelae] Die Domestikation und irhe Folgen. You write a shitty blog about your Dalmatian and you’ve never mentioned deafness, uric acidosis, or being bat shit crazy even once. I quoted Grandin because she was talking SPECIFICALLY about Dalmatians in relation to her much longer and decidedly WELL researched views on pigmentation and behavior. The Dalmatian is one of the best most versatile breeds out there and do not need other health problems brought into the breed to”improve” it. Effects of differential rearing on the behavioral and adrenocortical response of lambs to a novel environment. “st” is short-hand for “stycket” [trans. Another FACT for those looking for real information is Sturvite and Urate Stones can be medically treated and managed with diet and medication. I have an old breeding book and it lists a trait called, smiling and non-smiling. 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